So yes...this is becoming more and more a religious themed blog...deal with it. :)
But this past week has been an odd one. And one where the topic of the Eucharist keeps appearing. It's shown up in readings, in church service (Sunday was the feast of Corpus Christi), the music from the service, and just in talking with friends and family.
And Fr. F told the story of the boy and his dad out camping...Son wakes up in the middle of the night, wakes dad and asks what the stars are saying to him. Father starts to wax philosophical...talking about astronomy, theology. Then asks what they say to the son. Son replies.."They tell me someone stole our tent!"
Fr. F called this a "DUH" moment. And went on to say that as long time Catholics we need to remember that the Eucharist, while something we do each week and maybe not something we think much about, should be a DUH moment. A moment when we see it for all that it is. Our Savior, giving himself to us, to become a part of us, and we of Him. And yes, it's easy to just partake each week and not really think about it...but it is the obvious answer we must remember.
And last weekend...I was truly grateful for all the Eucharist had to give me. I really needed to hear again how this is the cornerstone of faith. That Jesus came down from heaven, by the power of the Holy Spirit, was born of a virgin and became a man. All so he could suffer, die and be buried and rise again to give us a chance at eternal life. Such perfect, amazing love.
Friday, May 30, 2008
Sunday, May 25, 2008
The Our Father (Lord's Prayer) in Latin
So here it is...in the common way of writing Latin today.
PATER NOSTER, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum. Fiat voluntas tua, sicut in caelo et in terra. Panem nostrum quotidianum da nobis hodie, et dimitte nobis debita nostra sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo. Amen.
But this is not the way it would have been written two thousand years ago. There were no punctionuation marks. No capital letters. No spaces. More like this....
paternosterquiesincaelissanctificeturnomentuumadveniatregnumtuumfiatvoluntastuasicutincaeloet interrapanemnostrumquotidianumdanobishodieetdimittenobisdebitanostrasicutetnosdimittimusdebitoribus nostrisetnenosinducasintentationemsedliberanosamaloamen
Why is that important? And why am I even mentioning it? Well...Curt is learning Greek and Latin. And saying the rosary in Latin...Which includes the Our Father. So we were discussing it. and the exact meanings of some of the words versus the way we've translated them over the years.
One of the words/phrases he thinks was a poor translation was "Daily bread". He feels it should really have more of a emphasis...like that which we must have to continue to live. That at the time of writing people thought food was more important than water or air to survival...which we know now is not the case. But the idea of that which we must have to continue to live...sounds an awful lot to me like what Jesus said to the Samaritan woman at Jacob's well. That the water of the well would only last for a short time...but he could give her water so she would never thirst again.
Another phrase we spoke about was the "Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil."
Curt mentioned that he was talking his way thru this with his priest....because he felt after reading this that the wording was more like "You forgive us when we do wrong in the same way that we forgive people who hurt us." Which lead Curt to think...Wow...I'd better do a better job of forgiving people. So he now has a new thing to pray for each night. He picks the one person from the day that he is most frustrated with...and prays for them.
And as to the last...Curt said he felt like the translation should have read..."And do not cause us to be tested, but save us from the Evil." More like asking a teacher to not give the final in a class, lest we fail it utterly. And asking for protection from the terrible Evil one roaming the earth.
I kind of like these translations. Gives me lots to think on.....
PATER NOSTER, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum. Fiat voluntas tua, sicut in caelo et in terra. Panem nostrum quotidianum da nobis hodie, et dimitte nobis debita nostra sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo. Amen.
But this is not the way it would have been written two thousand years ago. There were no punctionuation marks. No capital letters. No spaces. More like this....
paternosterquiesincaelissanctificeturnomentuumadveniatregnumtuumfiatvoluntastuasicutincaeloet interrapanemnostrumquotidianumdanobishodieetdimittenobisdebitanostrasicutetnosdimittimusdebitoribus nostrisetnenosinducasintentationemsedliberanosamaloamen
Why is that important? And why am I even mentioning it? Well...Curt is learning Greek and Latin. And saying the rosary in Latin...Which includes the Our Father. So we were discussing it. and the exact meanings of some of the words versus the way we've translated them over the years.
One of the words/phrases he thinks was a poor translation was "Daily bread". He feels it should really have more of a emphasis...like that which we must have to continue to live. That at the time of writing people thought food was more important than water or air to survival...which we know now is not the case. But the idea of that which we must have to continue to live...sounds an awful lot to me like what Jesus said to the Samaritan woman at Jacob's well. That the water of the well would only last for a short time...but he could give her water so she would never thirst again.
Another phrase we spoke about was the "Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil."
Curt mentioned that he was talking his way thru this with his priest....because he felt after reading this that the wording was more like "You forgive us when we do wrong in the same way that we forgive people who hurt us." Which lead Curt to think...Wow...I'd better do a better job of forgiving people. So he now has a new thing to pray for each night. He picks the one person from the day that he is most frustrated with...and prays for them.
And as to the last...Curt said he felt like the translation should have read..."And do not cause us to be tested, but save us from the Evil." More like asking a teacher to not give the final in a class, lest we fail it utterly. And asking for protection from the terrible Evil one roaming the earth.
I kind of like these translations. Gives me lots to think on.....
and once again...
it's been a month. :P
But then...soooo much has happened. And this took last priority. But soon...I hope to have more time on my hands. Lots more. Which would be sooooo nice.
Work is going really well. Had my first annual meeting. Went fine. 2nd is tomorrow. Have written one annual (for the meeting tomorrow) and have a second well underway, even though that meeting isn't until late June.
Meanwhile....I found an apt. I like. :) In an area I'm comfortable with. Which allows dogs/cats. :)
With any luck...move in date in June 7. Nice.
Still waiting on college stuff to start in earnest.
But then...soooo much has happened. And this took last priority. But soon...I hope to have more time on my hands. Lots more. Which would be sooooo nice.
Work is going really well. Had my first annual meeting. Went fine. 2nd is tomorrow. Have written one annual (for the meeting tomorrow) and have a second well underway, even though that meeting isn't until late June.
Meanwhile....I found an apt. I like. :) In an area I'm comfortable with. Which allows dogs/cats. :)
With any luck...move in date in June 7. Nice.
Still waiting on college stuff to start in earnest.
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